Saturday, April 10, 2021








Evidence that CC is a Feeneyite: 

Malachi Martin & CC: 

The Gnostic Church & Bishops [e.g. Hoeller]: 

The OTO Aust,:

From the LA Times,2002. Pasted here as the site is full of ads .re: Hoeller

Near the nexus of Hillhurst Avenue and Sunset and Hollywood boulevards, Bishop Stephan Hoeller has presided since 1977 at Ecclesia Gnostica, the tiny, incense-infused chapel of the Gnostic Society. Gnosticism, an ancient form of Christianity that flourished in the 1st to 3rd centuries, rejects doctrines such as original sin and emphasizes transcendence through inward, intuitive knowledge (“gnosis”) of the divine spark in each individual. Condemned as heresy by early Roman Catholic authorities, gnosticism has drawn renewed interest in recent decades thanks in part to the writings of Carl Jung and religious scholar Elaine Pagels. Hoeller, 70, a Hungarian emigre whose parish extends to Portland and Salt Lake City, recently published “Gnosticism: New Light on the Ancient Tradition of Inner Knowing” (Quest Books).

Where exactly do mainstream Christians and Gnostics part ways?

Where it comes to what is considered salvific, or what saves. We don’t proselytize. There’s no belief that coming to us you’ll be immediately saved and by not coming to us that you’ll be lost. Gnosticism has often been described as “salvation through knowledge,” but Gnosis doesn’t mean knowledge of particular data. Rather, it’s an inner “knowingness,” a change of consciousness. Salvation through the death and suffering of Jesus is not part of our thought.

What is the place of Jesus in Gnostic tradition?

The Gnostics have held that there are always messengers of light who come from the inner worlds as archetypes of transformation, though many feel that Jesus was perhaps the latest and the greatest of these. However, you’ll have no difficulty finding experiences resembling gnosis within other religious contexts--the samadhi of the yogis, the nirvana of the Buddhists, satori within Zen Buddhism.

How would you explain the revived interest in gnostic thought?

I believe there are two reasons for this. The first is the so-called Nag Hammadi Library [1,500-year-old papyrus codices found in Egypt in 1945], the largest body of original Gnostic literature ever discovered. It was translated into English in the mid ‘70s, giving us a more accurate look than we’d had through hostile secondhand sources. This allowed people to see that gnosticism is really far less bizarre and marginal than has been assumed. The second issue is a certain harmony between this material and modern and postmodern thinking. Some of these convergences occur within the depth psychology of Carl Jung. I also believe we are beginning to find echoes of Gnostic philosophy within the study of chaos theory or the approach of deconstructive thinkers.

Is Los Angeles “Gnostic-friendly”?

When I came from Hungary, I had a kind of poetic intuition that the city was re-embodiment of the cultural and spiritual diversity of ancient Alexandria where the Gnostics, the Neo-Platonists and all these old boys were. America enjoys exceptional religious freedom, particularly among those who have migrated to the West Coast and no longer feel compelled to simply follow the faith of their parents.

Gnosticism was mentioned in some discussions of the 1997 Heaven’s Gate cultist suicides in Rancho Santa Fe. Can you comment on that?

People in the press and even some scholars jumped to the unjustified conclusion that because Gnostics feel earthly life is a relatively lowly condition, they are therefore disposed toward religiously motivated suicide. But nowhere in our tradition do we find any indication of this. We believe in overcoming the darkness, not plunging into it.

How does a Gnostic transcend worldly entanglements?

It’s sort of what our Buddhist friend Alan Watts called “the shifting of the psychological point of gravity.” Gnostics aren’t exhorted to embrace poverty or chastity or vegetarianism. We look inward, but don’t deny the outer world. We can smell the flowers--maybe even pick a few along the way. But we must keep walking.

Where does Gnosticism fall in with the New Age movement?

New Agers are very much “in denial” of the dark side, and the Gnostics not at all. We feel that we must recognize both dark and light.

Have you personally ever been called a heretic?

Not since my youth. When I’d have the occasional dispute with Catholic clergy and fellow students, I’d hear, “Ah, there goes Hoeller the heretic.” Even then it was rather jocular. Source:,divine%20spark%20in%20each%20individual. 

Gnostic Churches in general:

Hoeller's Gnostic Church: 


and Thelema:

**Meditations on the Tarot: 

       "       The BOOK pdf: 

Shaman Annie:


Twitter thread: 

A CC article: 

....and this to indicate his over-indulgence in escapism:

Hoeller defends Judas etc:

Church teaching on divination:

CC and Besant Lodge:

Full thread of HerelsJorge from 2020:

Maurice Pinay tweets: 

CC's gnosis file: HERE  OR file:///C:/Users/John/Downloads/Charles%20Coulombe%20•%20Gnosis%20File.pdf 

On Wolfgang Smith:

Smith's theories Video: 

Quotes from Smith: 

Pinay's files on Malachi Martin:

Kabbalah and some prelates: 

Vatican document on the New Age [note the mention of "need for a paradigm shift":

CC and Creswell & boys:

Bishop warning on new age:

Gnostic talk by Hoeller from recovered "gospels": 

Vid if Hoeller on divination: 

Article from Rorate Coeli: 

Angelico Press authors: 

Fr. Jenkins: 

CC's articles in Crisis: 

Freemasons Bible: 

* and more masonry:

Martin & Smith letters:

Martin & Smith want a new Aquina

Going deeper on Wolfgang Smith 

An occultist in the mix, Levi:

and -Éliphas_Lévi

Questions put to CC in 2004:




Genesis & occult: 

In defence of CC:

Reviews and details of ?Meditations ......":

Ignatius Insight [Caldecott] on MOTT:

More - see comment by Bill Cork:

Check out - linked to Ignatius and Sophia Inst:

And this - Karen Rivers draws on Tomberg: 

The Sophia Inst: 

Robert Powell's blog: 

Angelico and praise for MOTT: 

Powell & Rivers video: 

A thread on Westmore & Powell: AND... 

The occult in US politics: 

Michael Martin - Catholicism is a Field not a religion: 

Martin - essay on those who thought naturalism was orthodox: 

Looks interesting: 

Amazon review of MOTT not complimentary:

Depak chopra new ager at Vatican health conf: 

Ratzinger, Spaeman etc on anthroposophy  The twitter thread on this.... 

JPII implicated? haven't read this  The twiiter thread ....  and/or  and 

On Emmerich and promoters

Follow @herels-jorge 2018 re: JPII and BXVI 

Opus Dei & Escriva into Kabbalah and Tikkun

A November 1963 letter from Karl Rahner to his brother, Hugo, revealed that conservative French bishops referred to Fr. Ratzinger, later Benedict XVI, as a 'heretic who denies hell.'

Fr, Keating and Wilder and others:

Promoters of Keating & centering prayer

AND..... In defending Judas the traitor, “the son of perdition” during Holy Week, did the daily newspaper of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Communication intend to convey a message? It is not easy to know. However, Judas’s rehabilitation in several articles and an editorial highlighted with a front-page reproduction of a painting with homosexual overtones from Pope Francis’s study, smacks of the Cainites, the early Church gnostic heresy denounced by Saint Irenaeus....

The link between mystical experiences and sex abuse....
e.g. the Phillipe's

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